Section III – references to verses of isopanisad by srila prabhupada in his preaching

Introduction

Prabhupada: I tried to explain something in the beginning of Isopanisad, my lecture in the Conway Hall, what is that Absolute Truth. "Introduction." I have given the example that the Vedas say cow dung is pure. This is axiomatic truth. Now if you analyze cow dung you'll find all the antiseptic properties are there. This is axiomatic.

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Invocation Mantra

Regarding your first question to explain the statement of Sri Isopanisad that "even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance." In material things there is exhaustion and in spiritual things there is no exhaustion; that is the difference between matter and spirit. From one Krsna there were 16,100 Krsnas in Dvaraka, and each Krsna is as good as the original Krsna. Just like there may be 1000 candles, and all of them light up from one original candle, but still they are of the same candle power as the original candle. Similarly, there may be hundreds and thousands of emanations from Krsna the Supreme, but that does not mean that the Supreme One has diminished in potency, although all other emanations are equally potential.

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If by expanding, He loses His identity, then it is material. In the material sense, that we experience. The same example: you take one big paper and cut into pieces and throw it. The original paper is lost. That is material. But in the Isopanisad we hear that purnasya purnam adaya purnam idam purnam adah purnam purnat udacyate, purnasya purnam adaya purnam eva avasisyate. Just like when Krsna was sporting on this earth as cowherd boy, Brahma became doubtful, "How is that? Krsna has become a cowherds boy here?" So he wanted to test whether He's Krsna. So he, he sifted all the cows and cowherds boys from the pasturing ground, and again he saw that millions times the same cows, boys and cowherd, cows and cowherd boys, are present there. So that is Krsna. He can expand.

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Om Purnam - Conservation of Energy

Svarupa Damodara: In physical sciences, there's a branch called thermodynamics that deals with the transfer of heat and energy in different forms. So their three laws is called first law, second law and the third law. First law deals with the conservation of energy in different forms. And the second law, it is stated that the energy of the universe is constant. Just like the, in the Sri Isopanisad, the Invocation, purna...

Prabhupada: Yes. Purnat purnam udacyate, purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate.

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A devotee knows how to appreciate the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

oà pürëam adaù pürëam idam

pürëät pürëam udacyate

pürëasya pürëam ädäya

pürëam evävaçiñyate

[Éço Invocation]

"The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the complete whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the complete whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance." Therefore, to take shelter of the Supreme Lord is required. Whatever a devotee needs will be supplied by the complete Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore a pure devotee will not ask anything from the Lord. He simply offers the Lord his respectful obeisances, and the Lord is prepared to accept whatever the devotee can secure to worship Him, even patraà puñpaà phalaà toyam [Bg. 9.26]-a leaf, flower, fruit or water. There is no need to artificially exert oneself.

In the realm of the Absolute, one plus one equals one, and one minus one equals one. Therefore one should not conceive of a fragment of the Supreme Lord in the material sense. In the spiritual world there is no influence of the material energy or material calculations of fragments. In the Fifteenth Chapter of the Bhagavad-gétä, the Lord says that the living entities are His parts and parcels. There are innumerable living entities throughout the material and spiritual universes, but still Lord Kåñëa is full in Himself. To think that God has lost His personality because His many parts and parcels are distributed all over the universe is an illusion. That is a material calculation. Such calculations are possible only under the influence of the material energy, mäyä. In the spiritual world the material energy is conspicuous only by its absence. In the category of viñëu-tattva there is no loss of power from one expansion to the next, any more than there is a loss of illumination as one candle kindles another. Thousands of candles may be kindled by an original candle, and all will have the same candle power. In this way it is to be understood that although all the viñëu-tattvas, from Kåñëa and Lord Caitanya to Räma, Nåsiàha, Varäha and so on, appear with different features in different ages, all are equally invested with supreme potency.

They do not know even that there is birth after death. Such a foolish civilization. Although we are experiencing every moment birth and death... Birth and death every moment, it is going on so finely. It is Kåñëa's arrangement. Just like this world, this earthly planet, is moving at the rate of one thousand miles per hour. Such a gigantic body, it is also moving. Every, all planets are moving. Even the sun is moving. But we cannot perceive. You ride on a best airplane—there are so many disturbances, sound, moving, sometimes table is (trembling?) moving. But this planet also moving more speedily than the airplane, but you do not perceive. This is Kåñëa's manufacture, perfectly. Pürëam idam. This is called pürëam idam, everything perfect. Pürëam idaà pürëam adaù pürëät pürëam udacyate, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam eva avaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]. Because He is so perfect, we do not perceive. But it is moving. Everyone knows that the morning, there is sunrise, and in twelve hours after covering twelve thousand miles, the evening is there. Again twelve thousand miles moving—you are sleeping—in the morning you see again the sun. The sun is there. Sun is not moving. But the world is moving. It is moving so nicely. Not only this earthly planet, but there are millions and trillions of planets within the sky. They are all moving. Seasonal changes, day and night, everything is going on. This is perfection. So those who are in divine nature, they can understand all these things

(Lecture Bhagavad-gétä 16.6 Hawaii, February 2, 1975)

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Simply being less intelligent, taking shelter of lusty desires, false prestige, we are mismanaging the gift of God. Therefore we are in scarcity, therefore starvation. By God's arrangement there is everything. Pürëam idam [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. Everything is complete. Pürëam adaù. This creation is complete. Pürëät pürëam udacyate. Because it is created by God, it is complete, so you cannot find out any deficiency. Pürëät pürëam udacyate, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate.

(Lecture Bhagavad-gétä 16.10 Hawaii, February 6, 1975)

But Kåñëa has no end. Similarly, His incarnation has no end. So in spite of so many incarnations, He is full. If we take, try to understand Kåñëa materially that... Just like if you take from some stock one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, like that, then the stock will be finished at a certain point. Kåñëa is not like that. Pürëam. The Veda says Kåñëa is pürëam, complete. What kind of pürëam? We understand also complete. But if you want to take something from the complete, gradually it will reduce, and ultimately it becomes zero. So Kåñëa is not like that. The Vedas say that pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam eva avaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]. He's complete. So many incarnations are coming from Him, just like the waves of the river; still, he's complete. Pürëasya pürëam. From original Kåñëa so many incarnations are coming. But still, He's there.

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.1.1 London, August 7, 1971)

So these are, I mean to say, technical of understanding, and we can know it from Vedic literatures. Just like in the Vedas it is said, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]. We cannot imagine. Pürëam means full. If you take full from the full, still the balance is full. That is the spiritual calculation. Just like if you have got hundred dollars and I take hundred dollars from you. Still, you have got hundred dollars. This is beyond material conception. Here, one minus one equal to zero, and in the spiritual world, one minus one equal to one. Here one plus one equal to two. And in the spiritual world one plus one equal to one. So these things are very subtle. As we make progress in spiritual understanding... Just like how Kåñëa can eat from such a distant place? No. Kåñëa is everywhere. He's within you. So His eating process is different, because His body is spiritual. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya [Éço Invocation]. He can take the whole thing; still, one minus one equal to one. Still, the... Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate. What is your question?

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.3.1-3 San Francisco, March 28, 1968)

The impersonalists' view is that if everything is Kåñëa... That is the... That is their material way of thinking. Just like if you take a big paper and, I mean to say, cut into pieces and the pieces are distributed, strewn over, then the original paper is lost. So their theory is, "If Kåñëa is everything—Kåñëa has expanded in this world, in cosmic manifestation—then Kåñëa has no form, separate form." That is their theory. But the Vedic injunction is: "No, it is not like that." Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate: [Éço Invocation] Kåñëa is so full that even Kåñëa expands million times, still, He's the same thing, Kåñëa. That is Kåñëa. Kåñëa is person. And even He expands, Kåñëa, in many ways... Paräsya çaktir vividhaiva çrüyate [Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport]. This is the fine philosophy. One has to understand how Kåñëa, in spite of His being a person—He's person, without any doubt—He has expanded in so many universes, so many manifestations. Yes.

This is the difference between Mäyäväda philosophy and Vaiñëava philosophy. Mäyäväda philosophy is: "If the whole cosmic creation is God, then where is God again separately?" That is their poor fund of knowledge. That is God who, expanding Himself in so many ways, still He remains as He is. That is God. Otherwise, how He is God? It is material thing. If by expanding, He loses His identity, then it is material. In the material sense, that we experience. The same example: you take one big paper and cut into pieces and throw it. The original paper is lost. That is material. But in the Éçopaniñad we hear that pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam idaà pürëam adaù pürëaà pürëät udacyate, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam eva avaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]. Just like when Kåñëa was sporting on this earth as cowherd boy, Brahmä became doubtful, "How is that? Kåñëa has become a cowherds boy here?" So he wanted to test whether He's Kåñëa. So he, he sifted all the cows and cowherds boys from the pasturing ground, and again he saw that millions times the same cows, boys and cowherd, cows and cowherd boys, are present there. So that is Kåñëa. He can expand. Båhatvad båhannatvad. Brahman means He can expand unlimitedly. And He can shrink also to the minute. Just like we are very minute. We are also part and parcel. And this cosmic manifestation is also part and parcel of Kåñëa. Therefore He's called paraà brahma paraà dhäma pavitraà paramaà bhavän [Bg. 10.12].

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.5.18 New Vrindaban, June 22, 1969)

The Bhägavata says don't waste your time for this bread problem. Don't waste your time. Tasyaiva hetoù prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatäm upary adhaù [SB 1.5.18]. Don't waste your time how to solve your economic problems. This is nonsense. Of course, it is very revolutionary. People will hate me. "What Swamiji's speaking?" But actually this is the fact. This is another madness. Suppose you have got your rich father, enough food. Where is your economic problem? This is madness. There is no economic problem. If you are, if you know that "My father is the richest man of the city," then where is my economic problem? Actually, that is the position. We have no economic problem. Everything is there, complete. Pürëam adaù pürëam idaà pürëät pürëam udacyate [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. Everything is complete there. You want water. Just see: there are oceans of water. You want purified water. You cannot. Although the ocean water's so much, when there is scarcity of water, you have take help of Kåñëa. He'll evaporate the water, He'll make it cloud. Then when it falls down, then it becomes sweet. Otherwise you cannot touch. Everything under control. Everything is full-water, light, heat. Everything is complete. Pürëät pürëam udacyate, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]. His stock is never finished. Simply you become obedient and the supply is there. You can understand.

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.8.21 New York, April 13, 1973)

Kåñëa is there. He is supplying food for everyone. So where...? There is no question of starvation. Then why rivalry? Rivalry means "I want to enjoy more sense gratification" That is rivalry. Otherwise, there is no question of rivalry. Everything is there, complete. Pürëam adaù pürëam idaà pürëät pürëam udacyate [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. God's creation is perfect. There cannot be any imperfectness. Even there is overpopulation, God will supply food. Don't bother. But because we have no faith in God, because we have forgotten God.

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.1.2 London, August 18, 1971)

So there is complete arrangement. We have not seen. Paçyati jïäna-cakñusä. Because we have no knowledge, we do not see how things are nicely arranged by God for our maintenance. Everything is there. Pürëät pürëam udacyate. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam eva avaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]. Everything is complete. It is our mismanagement. We, the so-called civilized human beings, we have created problems. We have created problems: "This is my land. This is my country. Why you are coming here?" Then there is fight, there is spoil of things, so many things.

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.2.19 Våndävana, October 30, 1972)

"I eat." Kåñëa says. Kåñëa is a liar? He's God, He says that "I eat." You cannot say that Kåñëa does not eat. Kåñëa says "I eat." Who are you to say that Kåñëa does not eat? Sometimes this atheist class, the rascal class, they say that "You are offering food. Why? Kåñëa is not eating. It is there." No. Kåñëa eats. But His eating is not like your eating. That is the difference. Pürëam, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñ... [Éço Invocation]. He will eat everything and it will keep everything. If I give, I am given a plate, I eat everything, then remains nothing. But when Kåñëa eats, He eats everything and remains everything. Therefore it is prasädam.

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.3.29 Los Angeles, October 4, 1972)

So therefore it is said, manasaiva viçvaà såjati. That is God. Simply by willing, "Let there be creation." Simply that word is sufficient. Immediately perfect. Pürëam idam. Pürëam idam [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. Everything full. Just like see, every planet is complete. Complete. Whatever is needed, there is complete arrangement. Take, for example, in our planet. We require water. The sufficient water is stocked, and the water is evaporated by the sun, and it is stocked again on the hill, reservoir, and from there supply, whole year is being supplied by river, and again it is going to the reservoir. How complete it is. Everything you will find complete.

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.5.1-8 New Vrindaban, May 23, 1969)

Brahman means inexhaustible, avyaya. There is no exhaustion. Pürëam. As we learn, pürëam adaù pürëam idam [Éçopaniñad, Invocation], everything complete. Complete, we have no idea of complete. We think complete also limited. Complete satisfaction. Suppose you have got a bank balance, a million dollars. You think, "It is now complete. I am fully satisfied." But he hasn't got the complete idea. The bank balance may be one million dollar today, but if I spend it, it will be gradually reduced, and one day it will be zero. So that is not complete. Complete means you go on spending as much as you like; still, it remains complete. That is complete.

Prabhupäda: No. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Iso Invocation]. He is so complete that one minus one equal to one. That is Absolute. Therefore Kåñëa is expanding Himself by so many energies, but Kåñëa is the same. There is no loss in His energy. Even in a human being or animal, he produces so many children. Just like hog—he produces at least one dozen children every year, but the hog is the same. If a hog can have so much power... And formerly one man used to produce hundreds of children. Wherefrom the potency comes? If a man is giving birth to hundreds of children, but still, he is the same man, wherefrom the potency comes? Why man? Even the fish, thousands of eggs they produce, and thousands of fishes are again produced. Wherefrom the potency comes?

Svarüpa Dämodara: From the supreme controller.

Prabhupäda: Not supreme... He has got. From the supreme control..., yes, but directly we see that He has got so much potency. Everything is coming from Supreme; that's a fact. But you can see hundreds and thousands of children produced by one single living entity. The snakes, they produce hundreds and thousands of children at a time. Fortunately, they eat their own children. Otherwise, the whole world would have been full of snakes only.

(Lecture Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.15.42 Los Angeles, December 20, 1973)

Ätreya Åñi: Who is the complete whole?

Prabhupäda: Arrangement is not accidental.

Nava-yauvana: They say yin and yang.

Prabhupäda: I am coming here. This child can say the arrangement was there. She can say like that. But I'm adult, I know the arrangement was there. It was made by somebody.

Harikeça: Yes, but for every amount of arrangement there is a disarrangement.

Prabhupäda: Disarrangement also can be... When there is arrangement, there can be disarrangement.

Harikeça: So that's a complete whole also.

Prabhupäda: No, as soon as you accept arrangement, there is brain. Either you make arrangement or somebody makes.

Harikeça: So the complete whole also is brain and brainless.

Prabhupäda: Brains, complete whole is pürëam idaà pürëam adaù pürëät pürëam udacyate. That is complete. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Iso Invocation]. That is beginning of Éçopaniñad. It is already explained, the complete. What is that complete? Complete means complete brain. That is complete. Complete means complete brain. Janmädy asya yataù [SB 1.1.1]. Because He has complete brain. Anvayäd itarataç cärtheñv abhijïaù, He's complete aware of everything. Therefore there is complete arrangement. This is the definition of complete. Complete in awareness. Therefore there is complete arrangement. Pürëät pürëam udacyate. There is the pürëät pürëam udacyate. Complete arrangement comes from the complete, pürëät. There is water. This water has come from a water stock. The arrangement is complete. Wherefrom the water has come? It has come from another water stock. Pürëät pürëam udacyate. So what you call eternal, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Iso Invocation]. It is so complete that if you take out the whole complete, again it is complete. The supply is again complete. Just like Caitanya Mahäprabhu was requested by one devotee that, "My Lord, You have come, You take all the sinful living beings by Your mercy. And if you think that is not possible, then give all their sinful reactions unto me, I shall suffer. You take them." Caitanya Mahäprabhu said that this universe is just like a mustard seed in the bag of mustard seed. So suppose this universe is taken away. Then what about the other?

(Morning Walk August 12, 1976, Tehran)

Harikeça: Actually I think it makes much more sense, because when the scientists say that the earth spins around this way very quickly, then his point is valid. Why we don't fall off or why we don't feel good?

Prabhupäda: It is not quickly. It is only...

Harikeça: But when the Bhägavata says the whole thing moves, then there is no friction.

Prabhupäda: Yes.

Harikeça: Therefore it is still. It's not rubbing against everything because everything is moving.

Prabhupäda: Yes. Just like this earth also. According to them it is going around the sun. But we don't feel anything. According to them. And according to..., it is running at the rate of twenty-five thousand miles, and if you, in airplane, it is going six hundred miles per hour, and still there is so many jerking. That is your creation, tiny machine. And God's creation, it is moving. Even it is moving, you cannot understand. That is perfect creation. Pürëam. The word is pürëam idam, everything perfect. Pürëam idaà pürëam adaù pürëät pürëam udacyate [Iso Invocation]. Because God is all-perfect, whatever He has created, they are all-perfect, relatively, all perfect. Just like this earth. It is all-perfect. Whatever you want, you inhabitants of this earth, they are all there. You want air, water, light? Everything is there. Pürëam idam. Pürëät pürëam udacyate, pürëasya pürëam ädäya. So you are using so much water, so much light; still, it is perfect. Just like the cultivation. Every year you are taking so much production. Still, again you can take. This is pürëam idam, perfectly done. That is God's creation. This is body, you see. You have to capture something. You require some solid thing here. It is there. If it is..., it was soft, only skin, then you could not catch this. How perfectly it is done. It is required here, not the whole finger. This is called perfect creation

(Morning Walk February 4, 1976, Mäyäpura)

The Vedic civilization does not recommend that for sense gratification, you shall simply work very hard, day and night. This is not very good life. You should know what is the value of life, what is the aim of life. God has provided everything for our living condition. We should be satisfied, whatever is alloted by God, and save time for being promoted to the spiritual world. That is the arrangement already there by nature. It is said,

pürëam idam pürëam adaù

pürëät pürëam udacyate

pürëasya pürëam ädäya

pürëam evävaçiñyate

[Iso Invocation]

God is complete and His arrangement is also very complete. Everyone has his necessities of life completely. In the Vedas it is said that we are all living entities. God is also the chief living entity. The difference is that that one God, eko yo bahünäà vidadhäti kämän, He supplies the necessities of all other living entities..

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Prabhupäda: Yes. We are pürëasya, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate. Pürëam adaù pürëam idam [Iso Invocation]. Everything created by Kåñëa, that is perfect. He does not create anything useless. Just like this sea water is salty. Why it is salty? If it is not salty, then it cannot be preserved. Therefore it is salty. You have to take water. But it is made salty. The process is... It is distilled by the sun, and then you are supplied. Just see how perfectly it is done. It is put onto the top of the hills, and it comes as river. This is God's creation.

Bhägavata: Complete.

Prabhupäda: Complete, yes. Complete... Complete intelligence.

Bhägavata: But we make it incomplete.

Dr. Patel: How can you make anything incomplete. You have no power to... [break]

Prabhupäda: ...instruction from the Complete, Kåñëa.

Dr. Patel: So don't say "we." We are nothing.

Prabhupäda: We take instruction from the Complete, not partial. Partial instruction may be good partially. But complete is complete. [break] ...pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate.

Dr. Patel: That is, then what do you... How you are saying that?

Prabhupäda: Just like Kåñëa... Kåñëa is expanding Himself in so many ways. Still, He's Kåñëa. He's not impersonal. The Mäyävädé says, "Because Kåñëa has expanded in so many ways, therefore no more Kåñëa. Kåñëa is finished." Because this is Mäyäväda. "Because Kåñëa has expanded in so many ways, therefore there is no personal Kåñëa." This is Mäyäväda philosophy. But the Upaniñads say, "No, even though He has expanded in so many thousands ways, still He's Kåñëa."

(Morning Walk March 23, 1974, Bombay)

Prabhupäda: Yes. Those who are sinful, they do not take immediately birth. They first of all trained up in the hellish planet how to suffer to become accustomed and then they are taken birth, then suffer. Just like you pass I.A.S. Then you become an assistant to the magistrate. You learn. Then you are posted as magistrate. Even if you are fit for going back to home, back to Godhead, you are first of all transferred to the universe where Kåñëa is now present, and there you become accustomed. Then you go to real Våndävana.

Indian man (4): Therefore, after our death...

Prabhupäda: Every arrangement by God is perfect. Pürëam. Pürëam adaù pürëam idaà pürëät pürëam.. [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. Whatever is created by God, that is perfect.

(Morning Walk October 5, 1975, Mauritius)

Karandhara: The ants also can walk.

Prabhupäda: Eh?

Karandhara: The ants, thousands of them without colliding. But the cars, they're always colliding.

Prabhupäda: Yes.

Svarüpa Dämodara: The living entities, when the soul is inside a body, they're much more flexible than the, the aeroplanes or cars that are made by the scientists?

Prabhupäda: Yes. The aeroplane wings, they're fixed up. But the bird wings, he can do like this. Even they can do like that, where is the credit? It is already there. Many millions and thousands. (pause)

Svarüpa Dämodara: In physical sciences, there's a branch called thermodynamics that deals with the transfer of heat and energy in different forms. So their three laws is called first law, second law and the third law. First law deals with the conservation of energy in different forms. And the second law, it is stated that the energy of the universe is constant. Just like the, in the Çré Éçopaniñad, the Invocation, pürëa...

Prabhupäda: Yes. Pürëät pürëam udacyate, pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Iso Invocation].

Svarüpa Dämodara: On the other hand the second law says that the, the entropy, that means the randomness of the all natural, spontaneously occurring natural processes, always increase. The randomness...

Prabhupäda: But... Thing is that they are studying the laws very nicely. That's good. But they should appreciate that who has made this law? That is their defect. They are studying how the laws of nature is working. That's nice. But they should appreciate at the same time: Who made such subtle laws that they are working so nicely? That is our philosophy.

(Morning Walk April 20, 1973, Los Angeles)

Hådayänanda: They say that God should have created us so that we...

Prabhupäda: Why "Should have created"? He has created already perfect. Because you are perfect, therefore you have got the independence to misuse. You are not a dead stone. That is perfection. Ye yathä mäà prapadyante [Bg. 4.11]. You can go anywhere, sarva-ga. You can go to the Vaikuëöha. Yänti deva-vratä devän [Bg. 9.25]. You can go to the higher planets. You can go to the hell. When you go to the hell, it is your choice. God has given you all perfection. Pürëam idaà pürëam adaù pürëät pürëam udacyate [Éçopaniñad, Invocation], everything is complete, perfect, and because you are perfect, you have got the independence. But misusing that independence, you are imperfect. Again, reviving your independence, you can become perfect, although you are imperfect now. That is Kåñëa consciousness movement. Kåñëa consciousness movement means raising the imperfect to the perfect platform.

(Morning Walk December 6, 1973, Los Angeles)

We are all sons of Kåñëa. Let us live peacefully and utilize Kåñëa's property." This is the best philosophy. But the so-called politicians and leaders, they are saying "No, you cannot enter here," immigration. America has got enough place to produce food. But they will, although they have gone to the United Nation, UNESCO, they could not find out any solution. Although there is possibility of producing ten times of the requisites of the whole population of the world, they will not allow. They will not allow. On God's side, this unit, this planet, pürëam idaà pürëam adaù pürëät pürëam udacyate [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]—everything is complete. You require water. They save three times water than the land. And the water is distributed over the land, parjanyäd anna-sambhavaù so there will be sufficient food grains.

(Room Conversation with Richard Webster, chairman, Societa Filosofica Italiana May 24, 1974, Rome)

Jïäna: If God is perfect, why didn't He make us perfect?

Prabhupäda: He is made perfect, but He is not... You are not stone. God is not stone. You are living being. The same thing you are repeatedly asking. You have got little independence because you are part and parcel of God. So by misusing your independence, if you violate the orders of God, then you suffer. You are perfect because you have got independence, but you misuse that perfectness. That is your fault. You perfect. You become imperfect by misusing.

Jïäna: Independence?

Prabhupäda: Yes. Everything is perfect. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate, pürëät pürëam udacyate [Iso Invocation]. Because you are part and parcel of God, you are perfect, but willfully you become imperfect. Again you become perfect; then you become imperfect.

(Morning Walk November 1, 1975, Nairobi)

Dr. Patel: Sir, this one question is asked by many people, that "How God can have aàças? He is perfect. He cannot be divided into multiple parts."

Prabhupäda: He is not divided.

Dr. Patel: That is what I say.

Prabhupäda: No, that is foolishness.

Dr. Patel: That is what I mean to say.

Prabhupäda: No. Just like... It is said, but they are foolish. They cannot understand çästra. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Iso Invocation]. That the rascals, they do not understand. They think materially. Just like this flower. If I take little, little, little, then there is no flower. They are thinking like that. But here is the warning. Pürëasya pürëam... Even the whole flower is taken, still whole.

Dr. Patel: That is God.

(Morning Walk April 15, 1976, Bombay)

Prabhupäda: Yes, that direction is coming from Kåñëa. He is all-perfect.

Svarüpa Dämodara: The instructions are given so vividly here, that first there is called the initiation step. It has to get specific information coded in this, they are called bases, and now, then it elongates, and then finally it's called stop signal. There's some message coming that "You stop right there." And if there is some mistake or something wrong along the path, then there will be a correction signal: "You made a mistake, so correct there." This type of...

Prabhupäda: Just see how perfect. How perfect it is. (laughs) Pürëam idaà pürëät pürëam udacyate [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. Because the direction is coming from the pürëam, complete, so correction is made and everything is done, everything nicely. Because the direction is coming from the complete perfect, there cannot be any mistake. That's it.

("Life Comes From Life" Slideshow Discussions July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.)

Prabhupäda: Preaching is our only business, preaching. Whatever we do, it is aimed at preaching. Namaskära. [break] That is our business. Whatever we are doing, it is for preaching. [break] In, in the practice, or in the engagement of preaching, their position is better than those who are worshiping the Lord in a secluded place, bhajanänandé.

Acyutänanda: What about those who are preaching, but imperfectly, and those who are...?

Prabhupäda: Even it is imperfect...

Acyutänanda: It's better than just sitting.

Prabhupäda: Yes. [break] If he's sincere, it cannot be imperfect. Because... We are always imperfect, but Kåñëa will help us. Teñäà satata-yuktänäà bhajatäà préti-pürvakam, buddhi-yogaà dadämi tam [Bg. 10.10]. How he can be imperfect? Kåñëa will give him intelligence. Imperfect means whose intelligence is not perfect. But when Kåñëa is giving intelligence, how he can be imperfect? He may be imperfect, but he's being helped by Kåñëa. Therefore he's not imperfect.

Guest (1): Pürëam adaù pürëam idam [Éçopaniñad, Invocation].

(Room Conversation September 18, 1973, Bombay)

Hådayänanda: They would say, "If everything has a cause..."

Prabhupäda: Yes.

Hådayänanda: "...then God also must have a cause."

Prabhupäda: No, that is God, which has no cause. That is our definition. Everything has cause, but when it comes to a point where there is no more cause, He is cause and effect Himself, then that is God.

Devotee (1): So then sometimes they say, "Well, what's to say there will ever be original cause?"

Prabhupäda: Ah? [break] ...that is original cause. We... [break] ...anvayäd itarataç ca artheñu abhijïaù svaräö. Satyaà paraà dhémahi [SB 1.1.1]. That is actual element, Kåñëa.

ahaà sarvasya prabhavo

mattaù sarvaà pravartate

iti matvä bhajante mäà

budhä bhäva-samanvitäù

[Bg. 10.8]

That is... [break] The actual element is so complete that you take the complete from the complete, still it is complete. [break] ...but complete element means you go on taking hundred dollars every moment, still hundred dollars.

Devotee (1): They would say that's impossible.

Prabhupäda: That is their ignorance. There is such a thing. Pürëasya pürëam. That is Vedic information. Therefore tad-vijïänärthaà sa gurum eväbhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. [break] Why not? Just like we can see materially that sunshine, for millions and millions of years it is shiny, still it is the same temperature.

Devotee (1): But it's diminishing.

Prabhupäda: Ah?

Devotee: The volume of the sun is diminishing.

Prabhupäda: No, because it is material. But we can understand that there... Of course, that is no... That touchstone. The touchstone can create gold. So unlimitedly it can create gold. Touchstone. So, even in material experience we'll find there is certain things which creates unlimitedly, still it remains.

Devotee (2): There's a starfish.

Prabhupäda: Ah?

Devotee (2): There is a fish called the starfish. It has five arms, and if it loses one arm it will grow that arm back, or that arm will grow back four other arms.

Prabhupäda: (laughs)

Karandhara: That's just material generation.

Prabhupäda: No, no. I have already said there is an idea that even in the insignificant material element we find this, that one is lost, another's grown. [break] So when the Supreme Absolute Truth is there, how much potency? That is explained in the Vedas. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Iso Invocation]. This is the idea of the Absolute. You take the complete from the complete, still it is complete.

(Morning Walk December 4, 1973, Los Angeles)

Prabhupäda: You cannot manage a small temple. (laughter) And Kåñëa has to manage such a vast universal affairs. So this requires brain and expansion. You, when you are enquired, asked, "Why it is not done?" "I told him. I told him." He says, "I told him." Kåñëa does not say. He expands immediately and does the work.

Tamäla Kåñëa: Hmm, does it Himself.

Prabhupäda: That is Kåñëa, not that "I told him, and he did not do. I am free. That's all." (laughs) Expansion of order, and nobody is doing—not like that. One has to see whether it is done. That is Kåñëa. Not that I have told the another man and sleep myself. And Kåñëa does everything in such a way perfect. Pürëam idam [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. Nobody can find out any defect. That is Kåñëa, all-perfect. [break]

(Morning Walk April 19, 1975, Våndävana)

Dr. Singh. But they will not admit that they are taking anything from Kåñëa. Instead they say that they are the creators.

Çréla Prabhupäda. How have they created anything? They take the sand and mix it with some chemicals and make glass. They have not created the sand or the chemicals; they have taken them from the earth. How have they created anything?

Dr. Singh. They say, "We have taken the materials from nature."

Çréla Prabhupäda. "From nature" means from a person. They have taken from nature, but they are thieves because everything in nature belongs to Kåñëa. Éçäväsyam idaà sarvam: "Everything is God's creation." ( [Éço mantra 1]) In Bhagavad-gétä Kåñëa states that if one does not perform yajïa [sacrifice], he is a thief. Yajïa means acknowledging that things have been taken from Kåñëa. We should think, "Kåñëa, You have given us many, many things for our maintenance." This much acknowledgement Kåñëa wants; that's all. Otherwise, what can He expect from you? What are you in His presence? We should acknowledge Kåñëa's kindness. Therefore, before we eat we offer the food to Kåñëa and say, "Kåñëa, You have given us this nice food, so first You taste it." Then we eat it. Kåñëa is not hungry, yet He can eat the whole world and then again produce it exactly as it was. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]. Kåñëa is so perfect that if you take from Kåñëa all of Kåñëa's energy, all the original energy is still with Him. That is perfect conservation of energy.

(LCFL,THE THIRD MORNING WALK,28 APRIL 1973)

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described herein as the wonderful cause. He is wonderful in the sense that although there may be unlimited emanations from the Supreme Personality of Godhead (janmädy asya yataù [SB 1.1.1]), He always remains complete (pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Éço Invocation]). In our experience in the material world, if we have a bank balance of one million dollars, as we withdraw money from the bank the balance gradually diminishes until it becomes nil. However, the Supreme Lord, the Personality of Godhead, is so complete that although innumerable Personalities of Godhead expand from Him, He remains the same Supreme Personality of Godhead. Pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate. Therefore He is the wonderful cause.

(SB 8.3.15)

If rivers are not polluted and are allowed to flow in their own way, or sometimes allowed to flood the land, the land will become very fertile and able to produce all kinds of vegetables, trees and plants. The word rasa means "taste." Actually all rasas are tastes within the earth, and as soon as seeds are sown in the ground, various trees sprout up to satisfy our different tastes. For instance, sugarcane provides its juices to satisfy our taste for sweetness, and oranges provide their juices to satisfy our taste for a mixture of the sour and the sweet. Similarly, there are pineapples and other fruits. At the same time, there are chilies to satisfy our taste for pungency. Although the earth's ground is the same, different tastes arise due to different kinds of seeds. As Kåñëa says in Bhagavad-gétä (7.10), béjaà mäà sarva-bhütänäm: "I am the original seed of all existences." Therefore all arrangements are there. And as stated in Éçopaniñad: pürëam idam [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]. Complete arrangements for the production of all the necessities of life are made by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. People should therefore learn how to satisfy the yajïa-puruña, Lord Viñëu. Indeed, the living entity's prime business is to satisfy the Lord because the living entity is part and parcel of the Lord. Thus the whole system is so arranged that the living entity must do his duty as he is constitutionally made. Without doing so, all living entities must suffer. That is the law of nature.

(SB 4.19.8)

It is the duty of the son to depend upon his father without asking anything from him. The good son has faith that the father knows best how to benefit him. Similarly, a pure devotee does not ask anything from the Lord for material benefit. Nor does he ask anything for spiritual benefit. The pure devotee is fully surrendered unto the lotus feet of the Lord, and the Lord takes charge of him, as stated in Bhagavad-gétä (18.66): ahaà tväà sarva-päpebhyo mokñayiñyämi. The father knows the necessities of the son and supplies them, and the Supreme Lord knows the necessities of the living entities and supplies them sumptuously. Therefore the Éçopaniñad states that everything in this material world is complete (pürëam idam [Éçopaniñad, Invocation]). The difficulty is that due to forgetfulness the living entities create unnecessary demands and entangle themselves in material activities. The result is that there is no end to material activities, life after life.

(SB 4.20.31)

The expansions of different forms of the Lord, as from Kåñëa to Baladeva to Saìkarñaëa, from Saìkarñaëa to Väsudeva, from Väsudeva to Aniruddha, from Aniruddha to Pradyumna and then again to second Saìkarñaëa and from Him to the Näräyaëa puruñävatäras, and innumerable other forms, which are compared to the constant flowing of the uncountable waves of a river, are all one and the same. They are like lamps of equal power which kindle from one lamp to another. That is the transcendental potency of the Lord. The Vedas say that He is so complete that even though the whole complete identity emanates from Him, He still remains the same complete whole (pürëasya pürëam ädäya pürëam evävaçiñyate [Iso Invocation]). As such, there is no validity in a material conception of the Lord produced by the mental speculator. Thus He remains always a mystery for the mundane scholar, even if he is vastly learned in the Vedic literatures

(SB 2.4.10)

The Lord's beauty is compared to rainfall because when the rain falls in the rainy season, it becomes more and more pleasing to the people. After the scorching heat of the summer season, the people enjoy the rainy season very much. Indeed, they even come out of their doors in the villages and enjoy the rainfall directly. Thus the Lord's bodily features are compared to the clouds of the rainy season. The devotees enjoy the Lord's beauty because it is a collection of all kinds of beauties. Therefore the word sarva-saundarya-saìgraham is used. No one can say that the body of the Lord is wanting in beautiful parts. It is completely pürëam. Everything is complete: God's creation, God's beauty and God's bodily features. All these are so complete that all one's desires can become fully satisfied when one sees the beauty of the Lord. The word sarva-saundarya indicates that there are different types of beauties in the material and spiritual worlds and that the Lord contains all of them. Both materialists and spiritualists can enjoy the beauty of the Lord. Because the Supreme Lord attracts everyone, including demons and devotees, materialists and spiritualists, He is called Kåñëa. Similarly, His devotees also attract everyone.

(SB 4.24.46)

Svarupa Damodara: Srila Prabhupada? If we add the conservation of energy from the invocation of Isopanisad, it will be a great challenge to science.

Prabhupada: Yes, yes. That is conservation of energy. Purnam idam, purnam idam purnat purnam udacyate.

Svarupa Damodara: The understanding in science is that if I burn a piece of wood, that wood contains originally cellulose. So it has certain amount carbons, and a certain amount hydrogens. So if I burn it, that carbon will be converted to smaller molecules like carbon dioxide and water. So if I balance it, starting from the original cellulose, so I'll get a certain number of carbon atoms and hydrogens. So the matter is conserved. In other words, it is not lost. That is the understanding of the science.

Prabhupada: No, we also, we also say. The energy, we take the sum total, material energy, that is conserved. It is displayed again. When there is annihilation, the whole energy goes back to Krsna. Yanti mamikam, prakrtim yanti mamikam.

Svarupa Damodara: But the original matter is changed.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Svarupa Damodara: The original substance that I started with, changed to some other form.

Prabhupada: Yes. It is just like you take cotton. You make thread. Another form. Then from thread, you make cotton cloth.

Brahmananda: It's not lost.

Prabhupada: It is not lost.

Brahmananda: It just changes it's form.

Prabhupada: The original cotton is there. Simply form is changing. This is the process.

Svarupa Damodara: Is it the same from purnasya purnam adaya...?

Prabhupada: Yes. Everything is preserved.

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Kim: I'm not very familiar with the Hindu scriptures, but I have read some Upanisads, and there's the idea that somehow atman is Brahman? I don't understand that at all, so perhaps you could say something about that?

Prabhupada: Which Upanisad are you reading?

Kim: I've read the Chandogya, the--I don't know the pronunciations.

Prabhupada: There are one hundred and eight Upanisads.

Kim: I don't know the pronunciations, that's the difficulty.

Prabhupada: Have you read Isopanisad?

Kim: Pardon?

Prabhupada: Isopanisad.

Kim: I'm familiar with the name, but that's about all.

Prabhupada: Give him Isopanisad. Read from the beginning. Have you read this book? This is the first Upanisad that is read. Can you read Sanskrit?

Kim: No.

Prabhupada: Transliteration?

Amogha: You just read the sound.

Kim:

om purnam adah purnam idam

purnat purnam udacyate

purnasya purnam adaya

purnam evavasisyate

Prabhupada: Read the translation.

Kim: "The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the complete whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the complete whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance."

Prabhupada: Now read the purport. After reading the translation do you understand everything?

Kim: No. (reads purport to) "...and Paramatma or Supersoul realization is the realization of His sat and cit features." I don't understand that. I read the words, but...

Prabhupada: It requires elucidation. "Complete whole" means, just like your body is complete whole, and there are so many other things, there are so many holes in the body, there are so many hairs on the body, there are so many hairs on the head, so many fingers, eyes, ears--so many things--but the body is a complete unit, working as a complete machine. And there are so many things. Similarly, the whole cosmos is complete, exactly like this body is a machine. Similarly the whole cosmos is a big machine. It is complete. One sun is there and keeping everything complete. The day and night, the seasonal changes, the equator, the temperature, the moonlight, the other planets, we living beings, the vegetables--everything is complete by God. And because the sun is there. Similarly, this body, machine, is complete. And the soul is there, it is working nicely. The body is also a creation, and the universe is also a creation, and the brain which has created these things, He is complete. Therefore He has created these complete units. That is the idea. Purnam idam. Purnah means complete. And because He is complete, the Creator, He has no defect; therefore He can create everything complete. Purnam idam, purnam adah, purnat purnam udacyate. And He is so complete that purnasya purnam adaya, from the complete, if you take the whole complete, still He is complete. Here is a glass of water; I am drinking. Drinking part by part. And when it is finished, the water is finished, no more complete. But He is so complete, that just like the sun, the temperature is being distributed for million and millions of years, still it is full of temperature. Here, unless the electric power is there, it is not complete. But there is power in the sunshine. It is a reservoir of so much temperature and light, that in history millions and millions of years it is distributing, the seasonal changes are going on, the green foliage is coming again, the snow and rain is coming, so many things are going on account of temperature. Any machine is rolling, just like as soon as there is power the machine is rolling. In all machines, your bodily machine, my bodily machine, and electric machines and other powered machines--everything is going on. Purnat purnam udacyate. And in spite of taking so much energy from the sun, it is still full of light and energy. This is one of the creations of the Supreme. Now how much perfect is the Supreme? Its one of the creations, sun, is maintaining the whole universe. And there are many millions of universes, and each of them has got a sun to conduct the business. And all these suns are created by somebody. How much complete He is? You can just imagine. That is God. God is not such a cheap thing. People become God, "I am God." You are a nonsense rascal. What you can do? These are bluff. They do not know what is God. Here is God--complete. Purnam adah, purnam idam. The whole creation is complete, still He is complete. The energy is coming from here, still He is complete. This energy also. A glass of water, I throw the glass, and water again is coming. Again I throw, again it is coming. Incessantly coming, all the energies. This is the idea of God. Purnam idam, purnam adah, purnam idam, purnat purnam udacyate, purnasya purnam adaya, purnam evavasisyate. One minus one equals one, not zero. One plus one equals one, not two. This is complete. This is the idea of God. Just like the ocean. You take many thousands of buckets of water out, still it is complete. And again you put many buckets, thousands, millions of buckets of water, it is the same depth. This is another example. Material example. This is complete. You take millions of buckets of water from the ocean, you'll find not a drop is lost. And you put millions of buckets of water again, not a drop is increased. Purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate. If you try to take out the whole ocean, still it will remain the ocean. This is the idea of complete.

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